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now before we tumble off of the fiscal cliff. will john boehner get out of the way and let us avoid another fiscal crisis? hey, good morning, everybody. what do you say? here we go. on a great big monday monday december 3rd, good to see you today. hope you had a good weekend and watched some good football got maybe some holiday shopping christmas shopping. a lot of people around here in the eastern market neighborhood of capitol hill buying their christmas trees. i saw them all day saturday all day sunday loading x-rays trees on top of the cars going home, carrying them home to deck raid the x-rays -- decorate the christmas trees. lots to talk about this morning here around the country, around the globe, around here in washington, d.c. we will bring you up to date on the latest to let you know what's going on, but most importantly, give you a chance to sound off. >> that's what it's all about. you can give us a call at 866-55-press. you can twit -- join us on twitter or tweet us @bpshow and follow us on facebook.com. and you can join the chat room a
, politics, the fiscal cliff, john mckinnon, are any of these expiring? as part of our fiscal cliff series, we're looking at the bush tax cuts that are set to expire unless congress acts, and we are looking at spending cuts. our deductions on the chopping block unless congress acts? are they floating through unless they get rid of them? guest: by and large, most of them are permanent features of the tax code. yes, the bush tax cuts include a lot of tax breaks, particularly for the wealthy. the capital gains and dividends what -- rates would go up. there are other breaks for the wealthy that would go away if we go over the cliff. there are also some breaks that would benefit working class americans. the child credit is the biggest example. also, there is relief from what is known as the marriage penalty. this is a quirk in the tax system that causes people to pay what many believe is an unfair break just because they are married. the relief from the marriage penalty would go away and the child credit would go from $1,000 back to $500. that would have a significant impact on just regular wor
cliff house speaker john boehner requested time on fox news to publicly declare the president's opening bid a nonstarter. >> i was flabbergasted. we're nowhere. >> treasury secretary tim geithner did the full ginsberg with taped appearances on all five shows. nothing will happen until budget tax rates and the ball is now in their court. >> the only thing that stands in the way of a deal right now is if a group of republican members decide there have been a block because they can't afford the wealthiest 2% of americans. >> how much is theater and how much are the two sides locked into positions that remain far apart? the president's plan called for higher tax rates on the wealthiest americans to the tune of $1.6 trillion over ten years along with the combination of new spending and some spending cuts. mitch mcconnell said he, quote, burst into laughter. still, the white house is making it clear until the republicans counteroffer. >> we didn't say how or how much or who should pay. >> there are a lot of items on the table. the president knows what they are. the question is, what are they
. we talked about being in a stalemate recently in terms of the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner and along with the rest of the leadership has presented an offer to the white house in a letter sent today based off something boles said to the supercommittee last year. you see the offer on the screen. 800 billion through tax reform, 600 billion in health savings, 300 billion in mandatory savings, 300 billion further discretionary savings. it nets to a total of $2.2 trillion in savings. what does it mean? in the letter we know the sticking point is the tax rates. the speaker says, quote, notably the new revenue in the boles plan would not be achieved through higher tax rates, which we continue to oppose and will not agree in order to protect small businesses and our economy. instead new revenue would be generated through pro-growth tax reforms that closes special interest loopholes and deductions while lowering rates. you see in this latest proposal while they offer up pour savings by saying, look, we can tax the rich people through the $800 billion figure. we can find more
questions about the fiscal cliff on twitter, and with less than a month to go, the white house dispatched treasury secretary tim geithner to five sunday talk shows to declare tax rates on the wealthy are going up one way or another. >> if the republicans say, sorry, no way are we going to raise rates on the wealthy. you guys are willing to go off the fiscal cliff? >> it republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a the a time when the american economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> while geithner was drawing a line in the sand, house speaker john boehner was busy trying to lift his jaw off the flar after geithner presented the president's debt reduction plans to him last week. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i have just never seen anything like it. >> yes, indeed, it seems that republicans are not quite sure what to make of the president taking a harder line across the bargaining table. >> you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is rol
a republican counter offer that president obama initial plan to get the country off the fiscal cliff. we have details of what house speaker john boehner calls a bold offer. what if we jump off the cliff? we talk about the budget cliff with the ranking member vis van hollen. egypt constitutional crisis goes on. judges from the highest court say they are afraid to do the jobs. "special report" from washington with breaking news from the middle east starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to new york and my colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ >> greg: last week, i went on a tour to promote my book "the joy of hate" which took me from florida, to alabama, and georgia. to tennessee. some call this the south with sarcasm. a buddy of mine gave me flick "deliverance" to watch as a joke. but i freaked out, large crowds with mom for daughters and sons for dads. dads for daughters. so many brought food from pumpkin bread to moonshine. that nearly killed me. more unicorns to shake a horn at. each place i went fan of the five turned on by a parent or their child. this was shared activity, the "the five," "red ey
. lawmakers wrestling to make a deal to keep us from going over the so-called fiscal cliff taking to the airwaves. house speaker john boehner rejecting the proposal and calling talks a waste of time and treasury secretary timothy geithner standing firm saying there will be no deal without raising taxes for top earners. a new and unusual storm system bringing inches of rain and strong winds to northern california and parts of the pacific northwest. today's round predicted to be the worst of series that have come already, bringing flooding problems in several areas, but there is more rain to come. the taliban targeting a joint u.s.-afghan base killing at least five afghans. and the gun battled lasted two hours, no americans were hurt in the attack. new developments tonight for america's strongest ally and friend in the middle east, israel. it follows last week's decision by the united nations general assembly to upgrade the palestinian status from observer entity to non-member state, a move both israel and the u.s. voted against. today, israel announcing a decision of its own, the p
. and that is good news. thank you so much, john harwood with the latest there. more now on the fiscal cliff. one of the industries with the most at stake in the budget debate is the defense industry. in a meeting today in washington, northrop grumman ceo wes bush with a dire warning. >> it would result in across the board cuts to both defense and nondefense accounts. and the interesting thing about this is the cuts are not tied to any military strategy whatsoever. it is completely disconnected from a perspective of strategy. in essence these would be meat axe taken to our national defense budgets. >> let's go straight to the front lines of the issue. task specializes in systems, engineering and integrate. president and ceo david langstaff is with us, among the defense contractors speaking out today in washington. he joins me now on the telephone. sir, good to have on you the program. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. glad to be with you. >> what's the potential fallout for task if we go over the fiscal cliff. how would you navigate this? >> first, it's just terrible policy to go over the fisc
law. we will see what the supreme court decides in less than 30 minutes. >> fiscal cliff tops standof the average middle-class family would have to pay about $2,000 a year more in taxes. house speaker john bain of lands the stalemate on the obama administration. he says they are not taking republicans seriously and plans to close loopholes and lit it deductions without raising taxes. >> i realize of the president may not agree but if there is another way to get revenue from upper income americans that doesn't ruin our economy why don't we consider it? >> we won them to tell the american why they won't do it. >> the democratic controlled senate has are the agreed to extend the bush tax cuts for incomes under $250,000 but let the other tax cut expire. it is predicted their rugby at least a short-term deal released before the end of the year. >> of when it comes to a president's second inauguration at the crowd tends to be smaller. that will be the case again this january. the cross the present obama as inauguration on january 21st will be close to 800,000. that is the estimate right now
understand that we have ha and post office in trouble. we continue to get closer to the fiscal cliff. i think that the president should take a case study and look at calvin coolige and john f. kennedy when they went in and lowered tax rates and you increase revenues which is what we are talking about. >> did you feel like it was a bait and switch from president obama and what you heard about in the campaigns. light on the details . i heard from members of congress that that is not what you thought was going to happen. >> you are absolute low right. what you see happening right now, dana is the art of politics and verse us the science of good policy. we need to move away from campaign mode and stimulate economic growth and wealth expansion and not wealth distribution. when the president is focused on the wealth distribution politic which thomas jefferson and hamilton lincoln talked against we are headed on down the wrong path. more people are pushed to food stamps and more people pushed to poverty and unemployment situation is going to get worse. we have seen that recently with the weekly job
. >> how speaker john boehner said right now, we are nowhere in terms of the fiscal cliff negotiation. as the president agree with that assessment? >> no, he doesn't. i think aesop secretary geithner over the weekend. another sunday shows. fairly clearly expressing the president's position to talk about the proposal that the president has pafford and express our belief that there has been progress in that we can achieve a bipartisan agreement. the obstacle remains, at this point, the refusal to acknowledge by republican leaders that there is no deal that achieve the kind of balance necessary without raising on the top 2% of americans, and we look forward to the presentation by republican leaders and their id ideas for spending cuts come as you know. as you know, secretary geithner has pafford a proposal that includes $600 billion in detailed spending cuts in health care and other entitlement programs, and that comes on top of over a trillion dollars in spending cuts as part of the budget control act. and it is contending with our proposals for how to achieve the kinds of revenue from
and democrats are at a stalemate again in negotiations to avoid the "fiscal cliff." susan mcginnis reports, key players took to the sunday talk shows to make their stances known. >>> reporter: the white house is already decorated for the holidays but the mood here in washington is anything but festive. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act, america will ring in the new year with $110 billion in spending cuts and a $500 billion tax increase leaving the average household with a nearly $3,500 hangover. treasury secretary timothy geithner was here on capitol hill last week to present the president's plan to congress. >> i was flabbergasted. you can't be serious! >> reporter: president obama wants $1.6 trillion on the rich, $400 billion in cuts to entitlement programs and billions in more spending. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell laughed at geithner during their meeting last week. now geithner says if republicans don't like the plan, it's up to them to present their own ideas. >> what we can't do is try to figure out what works for them. they have to tell us what w
down 49. nasdaq down, 7. s&p down 6. >>> there has been a new development in noontime in the fiscal cliff negotiations. the gop is proposing to increase the eligibility age for medicare and to lower the cost of living hikes in social security benefits. this is in response to president obama's suggestion. john boehner says this is a cellible one and hopes the administration will respond in a timely way. >>> a new trader joe's grocery store is located on california and it's now open. trader joe's now has five stores in san francisco. >>> thank you for trusting ktvu channel 2 news. we'll see you the next time news breaks. be sure to join us at 5:00 with more on the storm cleanup.
's on the high side. >> 2:00 on twitter. john, thanks very much. >>> one of the overhangs for the fiscal cliff for investors is what will happen on dividend tax rates. more and more corporations aren't waiting to find out exactly what happens with more than $22.5 billion worth of special difficult sends having been announced from 98 companies in the fourth quarter so far. today, hca, dish network, cato joining the list. jim iuorio is a cnbc contributor. >> i've been looking at this from every ang toll fiangle to find a tradable sort of angle. here's the one possibility that i have. even regular dividend payers sometimes when the x difficult tend date comes they adjust to the downside more so than the dividend even was. to me it seems like it is almost worth being short these special dividend payers into the x dividend day. i'm not because it seems dangerous to me. >> jim, we'll be back with you shortly. >>> now to bertha coombs with a "market flash." >> watching shares of aol. the "wall street journal" naming some unnamed sources say that its chief marketing officer will be parting ways with t
have the post office in trouble, we continue to get closer to this incredible fiscal cliff. and i think that the president should take a case study analysis and look at what president calvin coolidge did and president jfk did, john f. kennedy did when they went in and lowered tax rates and you increase revenues which is exactly what we're talking about. >> were you-- did you feel like it was a bait and switch from president obama from what you'd heard about in the campaign and light on the details, but that's one of the things i've heard from members of congress that they thought, wait a second, that's not at all what you thought was going to happen. >> yeah, you're absolutely right. what you see happening right now, dana, is really the art of politics, versus the science of good policy and i think we need to move away from campaign mode and we need to do the things that are going to stimulate economic growth and wealth expansion, not wealth distribution, when the president continues to be focused on the wealth distribution politics, which is something that president thomas jefferson ta
charming, engaging, how winning is that demeanor, is it at all, in dealing with john boehner and the fiscal cliff? >> i think they're kind of past all that at this point, right? i mean, i don't think the demeanor's really going to help at this point. they've been through this -- they've done this dance before. most of the players who are involved in this negotiation are the same players that were involved in the negotiation that happened in the summer of 2011 over the debt ceiling. and so these guys know each other pretty well by now, and i think the president and john boehner, even after all of that, still have a reasonable working relationship. but i think that the president's people have made a very clear calculation, they decided that they tried a way of negotiating in 2011 which was to be what they think of as reasonable. to come in and say, put your cards on the table. this is where we think a good deal will end up. $3 in spending cuts for $1 in tax increases. here's a bunch of medicare cuts on sbilentitlement. show your hand. this is what the president's willing to do. meet me here i
and democrats are in a stalemate in negotiations to avoid that "fiscal cliff." as susan mcginnis reports, key players took to the sunday talk shows to make their case. >> reporter: the white house is already decorated for the holidays, but the mood here in washington is anything but festive. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act, america will ring in the new year with $110 billion in spending cuts and a $500 billion tax increase leaving the average household with a nearly $3,500 hangover. treasury secretary timothy geithner was on capitol hill to present the plan to congress. >> i was flabbergasted. i looked at him, i says, you can't be serious. >> reporter: president obama wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes on the rich, $400 billion in cuts to entitlement programs, such as medicare, and $50 billion in stimulus spending. >> the president and the white house have had three weeks and this is the best we've got?! >> reporter: mitch mcconnell laughed at them last week. now geithner says if they don't like the president's plan, the republicans should present the
some washington over the fiscal cliff. everyone's taxes go up. massive spending cuts take hold in just 29 days if the white house and congress can't reach a deal. and they are barely talking right now. abc's jon karl has the latest. good morning, jon. >> reporter: good morning, george. with less than a month to go, the two sides are as far apart as they have ever been. overnight, the president released a new campaign-style video aimed squarely at republicans. >> we need to get tax relief to working families. >> reporter: this morning, about the only thing that the two sides agree on is that going over the so-called fiscal cliff would be a big blow to the economy. >> it would be very damaging to average americans. there's no doubt about it. >> going over the cliff will hurt our economy, will hurt our job creation in our country. it's not fair to the american people. >> reporter: without a deal to cut the deficit, almost everybody's income taxes will go up january 1st. it's more than that. there will be automatic cuts to defense, to medicare doctors, to unemployment benefits. and that co
-called fiscal cliff, but so far there's been more rhetoric than resolve. there's now less than a month to head off the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in next year. john boehner said he can't believe the latest white house proposal. the obama administration insists there's no deal without a tax increase. susan mcginnis is in washington with details this morning. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. it may appear the two sides are nowhere but these talks are expected to pick up dramatically very soon. december is here and as they say here in washington the lawmakers can smell the jet fumes meaning the planes taking them home for their holiday recess. what we're hearing there should be a deal by christmas. the white house is already decorated for the holidays but the mood here in washington is anything but festive. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act america will ring in the new year with $110 billion in spending cuts and a $500 billion tax increase leaving the average household with a nearly $3,500 hangover.
is on republicans to fix this deficit problem or you know, this fiscal cliff, it's not. both sides are willing to negotiate -- i mean white house is willing to negotiate. they made an offer and mitch mcconnell laughed at that time yesterday. john boehner went on the sunday shows and said basically we're not interested in any of this. so it's not -- the onus is not on the republicans. they're the ones who haven't done anything since election day to try to advance the ball. >> stephanie: yep absolutely. oliver north on hannity's show -- oh, is he judging susan rice? her basic -- yeah. >> susan rice, if she gets to become -- i'll make a prediction for you. she gets to become secretary of state. you will see the united nations get -- get a united states shot on the arms control treaties that the united nations launch and they will supercede the constitution of the united states. that's where they're headed. >> oh, my god! >> this from the guy who sent weapons to the iranians, funding right wing death squads. and lied about it all
not think about the fiscal cliff or fiscal roller coaster or slide. >> stephanie: bunny hill. >> right. >> stephanie: you say right wing [ bleep ] buckets jumped in declaring it as an impeachment worthy debacle. leprechaun jon was toughing away on -- john mccain was puffing away calling into question rice's intellectual, vowing to block her if she's nominated. it is incredible the difference if you look back at transcripts of them defending condy rice, right? as saying she was not the -- what did eric boehlert say? she was just the consumer of bad intelligence. she wasn't the author of it. that was a war that led to what, 4,000 americans dead and how many millions of dollars. meanwhile, susan rice is you know doing the intelligence that was given to her about something that already happened. >> right. right. and did you see the thing this morning in think progress that mccain actually was on tv on september 16th and said -- and said the same thing susan rice did. it is hard to know exactly what to play. i don't have tha
. >> wow, looks bad. ooh. >>> this morning, less than a month now before the big federal fiscal cliff. and we have some details on a war of word between treasury secretary tim geithner and house speaker john boehner. we will also update you on where the negotiations stand. right now by all accounts it is deadlocked right now with the clock continuing to tick down. >> a little testy. a little heated there. >>> and later this half hour, this year's gift wrap champ is here with her expert advice. find out how to wrap the most difficult presents, including a guitar, a candle, which is always difficult around the holidays to give. hope you don't give jenny a candle. >> i will light her fire, but not giving her a candle. you like to wrap. did you learn anything? >> i am horrible at wrapping, but i wanted to learn and get better. so i actually learned some great tips. >> take it to the lovely lady in the mall. >> i will wrap you. >> safety first. wrap it up. >>> but first, 62,000 football fans filled arrowhead stadium in kansas city the day after jovan belcher killed his girlfriend and then
'll learn a lot. >>> another money issue is the fiscal cliff. in something like, what, 29 days now we're going to hit the fiscal cliff. spending cuts, tax hikes. until lawmakers can reach a deal. house speaker john boehner pr pretty blunt on on where he felt the cliff negotiations were standing. listen. >> i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. >> the nothing he's talking about is the president's plan which was delivered to gop leaders last week by the treasury secretary, timothy geithner. ca calls for $1.6 trillion in new revenue. republicans say that figure is unacceptable. until they present their own plan the white house is standing by that proposal right now. despite the parties and lines in the sand we're joined by two republican law make rs. i've overwhelmed by republican lawmakers this morning. >> you're surrounded, soledad. >> connie mack is with us this morning and mary bono mack. i'm used to it on this
's one person. another writes in, what are you willing to compromise with the gop to get this fiscal cliff stuff done? i think president obama preparing to answer some tough questions from voters. over the weekend house speaker john boehner said these negotiations are nowhere. jay carney disagrees with that assessment. now phone calls at this point between president obama and congressional leaders, but the white house says the talks will be ongoing over the next several days, tamron. >> thank you. the president's q and a on twitter comes days after republicans flat-out rejected his opening bid in negotiations. house speaker john boehner appeared on one sunday morning talk show to see the president's proposal was not in his opinion a proposal at all. >> i was flabbergasted and said, you can't be serious. i just have never seen anything like it. we have seven weeks between election day and the end of the year, and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> treasury secretary tim geithner appeared on five separate sunday morning talk shows. he says it's the go
boehner described his reaction when the president presented its plan for the fiscal cliff. > >> i said you can't be serious. we have 7 weeks went election and the end of the year and three those weeks have been wasted. bill: flabbergasted, rich. wasting time. three weeks gone by. >> well, yeah, i think this offer speaks more to a desire on the part of the white house to break and humiliate republicans than it does to have a serious negotiation. on the other hand way these things work. you can pretty much go to sleep until right at the end, then it's days before it's goark yaitd. but it wouldn't surprise me if we do go over the cliff. they should pass an extension of all these tax cuts, make it clear they want to keep them for everyone including have much for the middle class. john boehner should say we passed this out of the house. let's see harry reid and the democrats pass this out of the senate. bill: i get the impression both sides are miles apart from the deal. and i'm told by smart people i'm dead wrong on that. are you of mind a or mind b, rich? >> i don't think there is a deal sitt
29 days to go before the u.s. hits the fiscal cliff. both sides are blaming each other for the standoff unsurprisingly. timothy geithner is pushing the gop to offer specific ideas and predicts they'll eventually yield on raising tax rates on the wealthy, but john boehner is standing firm against those high taxes. >> we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. >> why does it make sense for the country to force tax increases on all americans because a small group of governors want to extend tax rates for 2% of americans. no reason why that should happen. >> geithner says republicans will be responsible if no budget deal is reached by the end of the month. boehner says the fight has only begun and he's interested in cutting a deal and not sounding a fiscal alarm. we'll be talking about how the two sides might be able to break the deadlock with a did democratic strategist in the next half hour or so. now, singapore airlines has confirmed it's in talks with
until we go over the fiscal cliff. >> the president is demanding higher tax rates. congressional republicans want deeper spending cuts and entitlement reform. will they make a deal before we bring in the new year with a round of tax increases for all of us? we will ask the two men at the center of the negotiations where we really stand. for the president, treasury secretary timothy geithner. for the gop house speaker john boehner. geithner and boehner only on fox news sunday. plus, we've seen this movie before. the two parties edging closer and closer to the brink. we will ask our sunday panel whether we will get a happy ending or an economic disaster. and our power player of the week. a young beauty queen has to make a tough choice. all right now on fox news sunday. >> hello again from fox news in washington. well, we had quite a day around here friday with talks to avoid the fiscal cliff deadlock, and everyone saying the other side is to blame, pressure secretary geithner scheduled a ground of interviews. then friday afternoon, speaker boehner's office called to say he wanted t
on this fiscal cliff issue. he particularly cited your report which he described as providing imperfect but fair middle ground as a way of breaking this political stalemate. he's saying only the president would adopt your approach that maybe this stalemate could be broken. what do you think about that? >> (laughing) well, i haven't seen the letter, as i think you know. it's nice that the speaker would give me some credit for trying to do that. but what he is referring to is when i testified before the super committee, i tried to show these guys that if they truly wanted to ghettoing that they could ghettoing at that time. and basically as an example on discretionary spending they were talking about cuts between $200-$400 billion. look, ghettoing on $300 billion. on health care between $500 billion and $700 billion. there was $600 billion. another mandatory that got that number that came out is $300 billion. both were talking about changing to the superlative c.p.i. so you could get $200 billion there and you'd have $400 billion come out of interest. that would be $1.8 trillion on top of the 1.3
of the firefighters needed surgery. >> this morning both sides of the fiscal cliff talks seem far apart. there is some optimism about coming to a short-term deal. the president wants to in the bush era tax cut people making more than a quarter of a million dollars per year. with out a deal the average middle-class family could pay about $2,000 per year more in taxes. for house speaker blames the stalemate on the above ministration. he says they are not taking republicans seriously with the plans to close loopholes and limit deductions without raising taxes. >> i realize that the president may disagree. the fact is there is a another way to get revenue from upper-income americans that does not hurt our economy why would we not consider it. >> we think it would be a wonderful christmas gift to the american people to have a tax cut come january. and we want them to tell the american people why not if they would not do it. >> we are optimistic. >> the democratic controlled senate has already voted to extend the bush cuts for incomes under $250,000 and letting the others expire. moody's analytics is predic
cliff. stay right here. >>> i'm ali velshi. this is your money. house speaker john boehner called white house efforts to make a deal preposterous. the republican counter we're hearing about which extends the bush tax cuts for everybody including the wealthiest americans won't get washington any closer to a deal. washington's reckless behavior is already having serious economic consequences. i'm going to show you how and make sure you understand the truth about that raising taxes would mean for the economy, but first, set aside the doom and gloom of the fiscal cliff for a moment, let's look at today's money menu. check out auto sales up big in november. sales of gm cars were up 3.4%. ford saw a 6.5% jump in sales and chrysler shot up 14%. u.s. autos are on track to see their best sales month nationwide since february of 2008 as the big three continues to put the auto bailout in the rear view mirror. ford never took the bailout money from the government. what's sibehind the surge in au sales, no short cuts. the jobs outlook is looking better. access to finance is improving if you want to
] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. >>> negotiating a deal on the fiscal cliff. they say a good compromise leaves everybody unhappy, but can house speaker john boehner rise above the partisan politics and still escape the wrath of his tea party? we'll ask former house majority leader dim armey. >>> and we've seen some major executive shake-up these year. management guru jeffrey seinfeld will join us to grade the hires and fires of 2012. >> the third hour of "squawk box" begins right now. >>> welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc first in business worldwide. i'm joe kernen along with becky quick. andrew ross sorkin is off today. our guest host this morning, steve mcmahon, co-founder of purple strategies and david walker, founder and ceo of the comeback america initiative. more from them in just a minute. first, we have some headlines for you this morning. let's begin with the markets and the looming fiscal cliff. the dow finishing november lower. and that is the second consecutive month. the blue championships fell .5% in november. 3% since the start of october. the nasdaq an
. >> good morning. >> steve: what do you make of where we are in the fiscal cliff right now? we're less than a month away, both sides are a million miles apart. and john boehner says he was flabbergasted when he heard tim geithner's proposal. >> i don't really think the democrats want to make a deal. they should have never been put in this position. if you remember on your show, i said, don't let this happen between fiscal cliff and all of what's happening now. don't let it happen after the election. let it happen before the election because as you remember, obama would have no chance of getting elected if this happened. so i said, it must happen before. they allowed it to happen after. the democrats now don't care. i think they want to go over the cliff, raise taxes, and that's going to be the end of that. i don't see the republicans having the cards. other than they have a debt ceiling card a month later. and again, that's something that should have happened before the election and if you remember, on your show i was saying, don't let this -- from a negotiating standpoint, this was a total
questions for you. is your company hiring and what about this fiscal cliff? how big of an issue is that for your company. >> our company absolutely is hiring. we do business in almost 50 countries. we are fortunate to provide johns all over the world but definitely in the united states we are hiring corporate positions, hourly positions, our franchise partners are hiring management employees especially through the busiest time of year, the retail season to tkpwroeu thgrow the business. as for the fiscal cliff it's frightening, but i have to have a level of faith and belief that our elected officials, and current and growing administration will figure out a way to make sure that we continue to prosper as a country and small business owners like my franchisees still have a strong and productive business climate in wish to run their businesses. jenna: i bet our viewers are probably saying, she would be good in government. do you think you'll ever go in that direction. >> you never know. i enjoy being in the private sector, investing in our communities and being a good, positive inf
to expire as part of the fiscal cliff. >> as part of our series looking into the so-called fiscal cliff, we turn to deductions and tax loopholes. some are potentially on the chopping block as congress and the white house negotiate how to move forward. joining us is john mccain, thank you for being here this morning. what are loopholes and deductions? we hear those words a lot. >> loopholes are really in the eye of the beholder, tax breaks of all different sorts. and whether you like a particular loophole depends on where you said. deductions are the ones most people are most familiar with. the big itemized deductions are the home mortgage interest deduction. the deduction for charitable contributions is important. there are all kinds of other breaks. there are some that are big that people may not be aware of. the health care that we get a work represents a big source of income to a lot of people. it doesn't count as income on your taxes. that is a giant break in itself and known as an exemption. there are other breaks that exist. the earned income tax credit goes to the working poor. then
.m. >> right now i would say we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. >> 29 days until the fis fiscal cliff, the real deadline could be closer. one negotiator tells cbs news a plan needs to be in place by mid december. >>> police say they don't yet know why kansas city chiefs linebacker va john belcher killed his girlfriend and then killed himself. >> the coach said it was teammates who helped him decide to go ahead with yesterday's game. >> unanimously they agreed to go forth with it. that was their way of coping with the situation. >>> northern california is starting the dry out this morning after the last in a series of powerful storms. >> we went from trailer to trailer to make sure everybody was out. >>> 8-year-old jillian thomas was feeding dolphins last month and the dolphin went after the tray chomping down on jillian's hand. >>> could there be life on mars? a big announcement expected later today from nasa has caused quite a curl. >> if that was something that krald out under a rock, that would have shown up on the photos. >> david letterman says he is not worthy. >> we're here to
's fiscal cliff offer spurned by republicans. obama takes hard line on debt. which might be news to some people in the parenthetical. tony is a political correspondent and mark hannah is a former aide to the john kerry and barack obama presidential campaigns. some of the media tries to short form the story and comes up with a headline that can be barbed easily. this is suggested by a cable anchor who suggested the media has been arrogant since barack obama won in covering him and in covering in particular this fiscal cliff. tony, your thoughts. >> it could only be an msnbc anchor to take this long to figure out. there have been some media, the financial times which endorsed the president has called the president's bluff on this plan. they say this is the same proposal he put in front of congress that received zero votes a year ago, not even one democratic vote. but what the media has been doing is buying into this story line that president obama has some sort of mandate to do whatever he wants and that is truly false. obviously he has been given more time, but not to ram through an agend
this year. you have to fiscal cliff coming up. you still have it issues in europe. so, you look at all these things, if you are an investor, you are saying, oh, my gosh, do i keep waiting, do i invest? volatility is here to stay. they need to be invested. lori: i always feel like there are so many things. jill politics to global economy. there are constantly influencing investors. you have to look at what is going on in china. for example, better economic news in asia. it is not, you cannot put blinders on anymore. >> that is exactly correct. what happens in the chinese economy or what happens in the european economy does affect what we need to o here. and how we need to invest. when you look around the world, you have 80% of investors who believe volatility is here to stay. now, the difficulty is you have 70%, three out of four americans who saved it do not have enough for environment. lori: should average investors follow the institutions? >> yeah, you know, one of the things we are seeing is a lot of institutions have held off or have looked at managing risk and mitigating in their
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